These are my confessions,

"this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata" (fantastic-mr-foxbody) 02/12/2015 at 17:55 • Filed to: Oppo confessions

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Just when I thought I said all I could say, I saw a 996 and thought it was okay. These are my confessions, man I'm thrown and I don't what to do, guess I gotta start craigslisting 911's.

It's the right size, and the proportions are right, and the lines are so clean... I don't even really mind the headlights anymore. You can get into a decent high miler for so little too.

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E. Julius > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/12/2015 at 17:57

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I've always liked the targas of this generation. I think it gets more crap than it deserves because it's not a "real" targa.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > E. Julius 02/12/2015 at 18:00

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"Waaah more structural rigidity and rollover protection, waaaah, I don't like giant sexy panoramic glass sunroofs."

Notice that 15 years later that's becoming a common stylish feature, *cough* F-Type coupe, Model S, etc.

996 did it first, guys

T5Killer > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/12/2015 at 18:14

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I have liked the 996 from day one.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > T5Killer 02/12/2015 at 18:16

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You're a visionary

E. Julius > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/12/2015 at 18:35

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That reminds me of a quote I read a while back, probably on oppo or the FP. Paraphrased, it was something like "people always complains about how popup headlights are unreliable and ruin the aerodynamics at night. Stop pretending you're a 24 hour endurance racer and that these things really matter to you."

I feel the same way about the non coupe 911s. People always complain that they "ruin" the car because it's less rigid. If they buy 911s to flog them on a track, then that's a valid concern for them , but I feel like for most buyers, and definitely for me, the difference is not so substantial that it effectively ruins the car as some purists will claim. To me, an open top is worth LOTS of chassis rigidity.

Interesting point you raise about the 911s anticipation of this super popular trend right now, I never thought of that.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > E. Julius 02/12/2015 at 18:40

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But but but but but how on earth can I be seen in a car that's 1.37 seconds slower 'round the 'ring!? That totally applies to my LA freeway commute!! People will think my dick is the size of a peanut!!!

Admiral Ackbar's Sweaty Taint > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/12/2015 at 18:45

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The 996 TT has the aggressive stance and wide hips and turbo vents that make it work with the stupid egg headlights.

Add in the fact it is somewhat lightweight compared to modern GT cars, has a metzger race engine derivative, and has reached the bottom of it's depreciation curve and it's a steal.

Admiral Ackbar's Sweaty Taint > E. Julius 02/12/2015 at 21:35

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I definitely agree with you. However, as a person that tracks my 911 I unfortunately got a sunroof model but its a worthwhile compromise. I keep the rigidity, but I get a bit more weight up top. At first I hated it but on nice sunny days opening the sunroof is just so nice. 100% worth even for someone who loves to track their car. I think I would be personally unhappy with a cabriolet or targa though as I feel the driving dynamic differences would be felt a bit too much more and would reduce my enjoyment at the track.

However; if I could spec my own car on principle I would go all track, or all comfort. I just happened to be "ok" with my car now as I love it.

RTeeJay > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/12/2015 at 23:27

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Did you intentionally make you first paragraph a rewrite of Usher's song? If so, very creative.

E. Julius > Admiral Ackbar's Sweaty Taint 02/13/2015 at 02:39

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That's interesting to hear from someone in that situation, I think you're the first!

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 04/03/2015 at 02:08

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Give yourself over to the dark side.

Especially once you realize that the early 996 and 986 Boxster headlights are a modern throwback to the original long-hood 911's headlights and turn signals.

Some IMS/RMS preventative work (which with any luck, the first owner has already done), and regular maintenance... good to go.

I want a sleek, clean narrow-body Carrera 4 6-speed coupe myself, but if I can't find a coupe, I would gut the convertible top out of a Cabriolet, and put a GTN targa top on it, instead.

It would be lighter than the giant-sunroof factory 996/7 Targa, which isn't bad... but I would hate to see a repair bill on that roof mechanism. It does have that opening rear glass thing going for it, though.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > E. Julius 04/03/2015 at 02:17

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Factory Targas are rare... and that is a heavy mechanism high above the floor, and would be expensive to repair if it wears out or deteriorates over time. Aside from that potential, I don't have a problem with factory Targas. Too bad the 997s are the only ones with AWD, and they are still fetching a pretty penny on resale value... and I would want an AWD 911. (for RWD, I would probably go Boxster/Cayman)

I'd rather find a Carrera 4 Cabriolet with a shaggy top, remove that top and the mechanisms to save weight, and just use a GTN Targa hard-top system. The rear glass fits to the tonneau cover panel, and the forward section removes like T-tops, manually. No automated mechanisms to wear out and fail.

This is a 997, but there is a variant that fits 996 pretty much the same way.

E. Julius > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 04/03/2015 at 02:23

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Wow I've never seen those! That's actually really cool. Also, weirdly enough, nearly two months after making this comment I saw one of those 996 targas out and about!